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Pedro invited people to come in for conversation on Saturday mornings. At these meetings you would find leading figures of the country, an industrialist, a politician, top literary people, etc.

Venezuela, in some ways, was a very insular society so that everyone "who counted" knew everyone else, and Pedro was able to bring them together.

He had been in Venezuela for thirty or forty years by this time, and he said to me, "You see my library, and you know what I’ve done. He hadn’t found anyone interested enough in their own history to carry on his work and he thought that the history of a people is so important for them.

Venezuela is a very peculiar country, but I don’t need to go into that.

Part of my dissertation had to do with studying Caldera and his friends.There were a couple of people there who had an impact on your thinking. I met many Spaniards in Latin America who had gone into exile because they had been on the losing side in the Spanish civil war. At that time in 1970-71, when I met him, he was very prestigious, the most learned and prominent historian in the country.They left for various reasons, fearing for their lives, not wanting to go to jail, or feeling they just couldn’t live under the regime of Franco. In his private library he had gathered all the primary and secondary documents, as much as that was possible, for studying the history of Venezuela.Caldera was a man who recognized immediately what Pedro Grases was doing and his importance to the country, his importance to the future of that nation.Caldera apprenticed himself to Grases as a student and lived there and worked with him.

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